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Out of the Ordinary


Nov 27, 2019

This is the story of a young woman's first Thanksgiving and a young child's Christmas wish.

These are stories about hard holidays, but they are only the first step in a three-part journey Christie and Lisa-Jo take together on the podcast this December.

Why revisit the hard? Why return in conversation to those darker...


Nov 20, 2019

This is the story of a terrible, no-good, but oh-so-hilarious Christmas card photo.

These are stories about the things we will NOT be doing this Christmas season.

Does the approach of Christmas feel a little less joyful than you wish it would? Are you already tired? Already feeling inadequate to the demands of the...


Nov 13, 2019

This is the story of having a champion. Especially one who doesn't look, talk, act, or sound like a champion.

This is the story of surprise characters who become plot twists in our teenage memories. 

This is how people are very often very different than what we expect them to be. And how two unlikely guardian angels...


Nov 6, 2019

This is a story about dark wells of deep water and the surprises that can come out of them.

This week we talk about how the places of our pain are sometimes the very places where beauty grows in totally unexpected ways.

Places that feel too deep to even talk about can be where we find fresh water and new life. We...